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the roof over my head

Oh, home ownership. Have I ever mentioned how much I miss renting?

I wrote before that my house leaks - mainly over a window in the back part. When it rains, water comes down through the wall, paint is peeling off at the top. When the water hits this window it escapes out onto our carpet and rots all the window around the wood while it's at it. This has been going on for a while.

So I call Roofer A, off Angie's list. Roofer A comes out and says, "Well this is bad news... you know you have a spanish tile roof, and those tiles will last forever. But the stuff UNDER the tiles is not always built to last forever, and that's what you've got... those materials, it's just bad, this will be terrible, we'll need to remove all the tiles, maybe work out a multi-year plan to do one face at a time since it's going to be so expensive, maybe get a structural engineer, I'm sorry, it's just so bad. I'm going to take a tile and see if we can find a match."

Then he doesn't get back with me for a long time. I call him back and he's like, "Well we couldn't find a matching tile" and I say "well can you re-use the existing tile maybe?" and he's like, "Yeah, we need to come back and do an estimate..."

And honestly, he's not real persistant. Kinda deer in the headlights. Every time I talk with him he's telling me that the roof just has to be all replaced and I'm like okay, tell me what it'll cost and I don't hear back.

So we call roofer B. Roofer B is a friend of a friend and is personally recommended - which is supposed to be what Angie's List does, but not always apparently. Roofer B is still from a large roofing company, really the second runner up in the competition.

This guy comes out and looks at the roof, then goes up there with a hose. He moves some tiles and sprays water and nothing happens. Then about 20 minutes into the investigation, BAM, all this water comes in over the window and he's like, "Oh that's the spot! Looks like somebody tried to do a crappy patch job... well we can fix this, we'll have to remove tiles over this whole area but can definitely stop the leak."

This guy is not so deer-in-the-headlights, he's keeping the project moving.

But the first guy, roofer A, has me freaked out still... is it true that my entire roof was built with horrible materials and my whole house is going to fall down one day? He wants to do BIG THINGS. Roofer B wants to do SMALLER THINGS.

Who do I trust?


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( 18 comments — Leave a comment )
Mar. 4th, 2016 09:32 pm (UTC)
The guy making less money off you.

Especially since you describe a process of actually systematically testing the roof!
Mar. 4th, 2016 09:36 pm (UTC)
Maybe get a third opinion? Otherwise, go with B and see if the leak is fixed or not... seems like roofer A was maybe jumping the gun?

Also I hate how often they act like they couldn't care less if they ever do your job...they just have so much work they don't need to do any more...
Mar. 4th, 2016 09:57 pm (UTC)
Guy B. Testing seems sound and he sounded confident. Gut feel?
Mar. 4th, 2016 10:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah, renting seems so much easier but 'm still all for owning. Pitfalls like needing roofs replaced, basement flooding, dishwashers dying.... But, in the long run I have something I'll cash in to fund my golden years.
Mar. 7th, 2016 10:56 am (UTC)
Your golden years during which you plan to live in a tent? (I want to buy a house and live in it for the rest of my life, I despise moving house)

Me, I just want to NEVER have to deal with a shitty landlord ever again, and hereabouts they are mostly shitty (like - the roof just wouldn't get fixed, ever, and complain too hard and you get evicted).
Mar. 7th, 2016 01:13 pm (UTC)
I'm figuring once the house becomes problematic move-ment wise, I'll sell and move into a retirement home/senior's residence. In the current market the house is worth around $800K so that should finance a few years.

I figure I'll need something without so many stairs that someone in her 80s can easily get around..and have a bunch of other biddies around me to play cards, games, go on casino junkets etc. :)
Mar. 4th, 2016 11:46 pm (UTC)
Go with Roofer B, but leaks can be tricky things that may require Roofer A-F in some horrible cases.
Mar. 5th, 2016 02:38 am (UTC)
You get a third opinion.
Mar. 5th, 2016 03:10 am (UTC)
I have no authority or experience, but just reading this, roofer A comes off to me as being scammy. Did you ask roofer B what he thought about roofer A's theory?
Mar. 5th, 2016 03:53 am (UTC)
Hard to say. I've had a couple of "Oh, easy fix, $500!" that went awry again a year later. See: dishwasher, sewer line, roof drain line.
Mar. 5th, 2016 03:24 am (UTC)
I always try to get three quotes, but dude B seems on the right track. A would be out for me.
Mar. 5th, 2016 08:26 am (UTC)
Fix the leak. This solves your immediate problem. Then think about having the roof inspected by a neutral third party to get an idea if there are lurking problems and when it will need replaced and what a replacement would cost. Then look at your finances and make a plan. Plans are good. :)
Mar. 5th, 2016 12:44 pm (UTC)
This this this. So much this.
Mar. 5th, 2016 03:05 pm (UTC)
My completely uneducated guess; Roofer A was over his head, diagnostically, which explains the deer-in-headlights impression. Had never seen Spanish tile up close, is worried about losing his job because his brother-in-law owns the company, just basically keeps talking because he knows nothing.
Mar. 5th, 2016 03:05 pm (UTC)
I'm with Belleweather
Mar. 5th, 2016 03:46 pm (UTC)
I also agree with belleweather's comment. Get it fixed now to prevent any further damage, and then get someone else to come in and check out the roof overall for your own peace of mind.

I can't say I miss renting though, haha. I do miss less responsibility, but I don't miss noisy neighbors! I adore my house.
Mar. 5th, 2016 04:37 pm (UTC)
You could ask Roofer B the larger question, "should we be looking at doing any preventative maintenance at the same time?"
Mar. 5th, 2016 11:51 pm (UTC)
This is what scares me a bit about when husband and I go into home ownership. You're right about it being easier to rent, to not have to deal with that sort of thing. Sounds like a headache! I hope that when it's resolved, you'll feel good about your place after all is fixed and done.
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