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At work I got to talking with the guys about clothes - discussing fashion with engineers is always an adventure, right? I told them that a few years ago I reduced my wardrobe down to what would fit in my small, old house closet and I've never looked back.

I also mentioned the now-famous Mark Zuckerberg closet photo and how he's one of a few male celebs who wear the exact same outfit every day so that deciding what to wear doesn't deduct from their Important Decision quota.

Then this guy Rob says, "what decision?" Apparently Rob just picks the left-most shirt from his clothes closet every day, then gets the pants that most go with it, and calls it good. Every week he hangs up his laundry randomly on the right side. Every shirt in there is a shirt he wants to wear. Totally uncomplicated. He didn't see this as a revolutionary organization strategy at all, he figured everybody did this. Why skip over clothes in your closet? If they're in there you want to wear them, right?

Okay. I guess it is a good idea to talk with engineers about fashion.

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Feb. 21st, 2016 12:19 am (UTC)
Nice system!

It's a bit like the pen drawer: if you find a pen that doesn't write, throw it out, don't put it back.
Feb. 21st, 2016 02:19 am (UTC)
Oh God. I'm on a campaign to make everyone at work do this with whiteboard markers.

If you find a dud marker WHYYYY put the lid on it and leave it on the tray to disappoint the next guy?!
Feb. 21st, 2016 02:34 pm (UTC)
No convenient trashcan, perhaps, but it's not that hard to put it on the table and take it with you when you leave!
Feb. 22nd, 2016 09:54 am (UTC)
If they're cheap whiteboard markers like the ones I have, it may be that if you put the cap back on and leave it until next time, it will work again.

This is why I bring about 10 with me, and cycle through them all during a seminar. No single one will last the whole time, but if I write with one until it gives out, by the time I've done the same with all the others, that first one will have some juice again.
Feb. 21st, 2016 12:27 am (UTC)
I'm with Rob. I take the top right shirt in the drawer, and work my way down/left over time. They all match jeans or khakis.
Feb. 21st, 2016 12:40 am (UTC)
This is not new (last Spring) but fascinated me when I first read it.


I worked for IBM for 15 years. The white shirt with blue/black suit rule was strongly in effect for men. (Women had just gotten the nod to wear pant suits - yeah!! - but we never had color restrictions.)

And then one year (early 90's), when I worked in California, we got casual Fridays. The engineers and developers went bat shit crazy. What????? I have to decide???? what to wear?? Just after I left that plant, they converted to all casual wear all the time. I'm guessing the transition did not go well in penis-ville.

Feb. 21st, 2016 12:40 am (UTC)
I do this, too. When folding laundry, I close my eyes and grab a shirt, fold it, and put it in the queue. I guess it's an extension of the idea that there's no right time for anything besides the present. Occasionally I feel drawn to a specific thing and make an exception, but in those cases there's no deliberation anyway.
Feb. 21st, 2016 01:41 am (UTC)
The Zuckerberg method is also the method used by the nameless male in the S&M memoir, "9 1/2 Weeks." Coincidence?
Feb. 21st, 2016 02:37 pm (UTC)
Isn't it also what Steve Jobs did?
Feb. 21st, 2016 02:07 am (UTC)
That's what my dad did/does!! I really try.
Feb. 21st, 2016 03:11 am (UTC)
I do exactly what Rob does!!!!!

I'm not even kidding (except in the reverse). My clean underwear and socks goes in the drawer in the back, and I always grab the one right in the front. My tank tops and undershirts go in the drawer on the left, and I push them over to make room, and I grab the one that is farthest to the right in the drawer. I hang up any shirts or sweaters or dresses on hangers in my closet on the left, push it towards the right, and I grab either the far right or the second to right. THen, if I see an item has been sitting on the right for too long, it's an item I'm not wearing and it gets Freecycled.

Other people don't do this..?
Feb. 21st, 2016 08:00 am (UTC)
I do that! I've always hated spending mental resources on choosing what to wear, so I just pick the first available shirt. The only time I need to worry about matching is if I'm wearing a sweater where the shirt underneath is visible. That's usually quick and easy, but occasionally it's not, and it annoys me when I have to stop and consider options when I want to just get on with it already.

I do have a few things that I don't wear any more, that are still sitting in the closet. I've been meaning to pack them up and donate them. I need to stop procrastinating... I don't like having stuff taking up space if it's not something that I'll use.
Feb. 21st, 2016 08:40 am (UTC)
Wow, I wish I could make this work for me. I sort of did something like it in Jamaica (because I wore dress + cardigan + sandals 80% of the time, because it was Jamaica) but I don't know... I guess being properly attired for the various things that can happen in my day (is it cold? do I have a meeting? am I going anywhere after work? do I have a clean bra that goes with that shirt/dress without sticking out or looking weird? do I have clean socks/stockings? Do I have a meeting with the front office or an outside person which requires a Jacket)? Is it casual day, and if so, do I have to be seen by anyone else? will I have to walk a lot, or can I wear heels?) is too much a part of my job for that to work.
Feb. 21st, 2016 04:44 pm (UTC)
I'm with you. My office is not well insulated so I'm always considering the weather, my activities, what I wore recently, etc. Plus a dash of what do I feel like wearing that day.
Feb. 21st, 2016 08:55 am (UTC)
That is a great idea! But for me, I pick clothes depending on how much I like them and whether people will see me in them. If I'm meeting a friend, I'll wear something that looks and feels nicer than something I can go grocery shopping in.

If everything I owned was the same size and shape but with a different picture on it or in a different colour, then this engineer's method would work brilliantly! ;)
Feb. 21st, 2016 10:03 am (UTC)
Wow, that's fascinating. I do a lot of decision making for fashion, but I try to do it Sunday afternoons. This week I haven't and already I'm thinking "what am I wearing?" each day
Feb. 21st, 2016 04:26 pm (UTC)
That is actually a brilliant idea for closet organization. Hmm.
Feb. 22nd, 2016 09:53 am (UTC)
I like that!
Feb. 22nd, 2016 10:55 am (UTC)
Ah, but for me the choice of what-to-wear depends a lot on the weather (I guess some people go from their climate-controlled house to their climate-controlled car to their climate-controlled office but I don't; my house is reasonably heated, then I cycle to work, where my office has a window that doesn't shut properly) and also on "what am I doing after work" (work has no dress code, yay) so on days when that is "dance class" I'm more likely to want a skirt than on days when that is "rock climbing".

But yeah, I basically grab a random Tshirt or jumper or pair of jeans or whatever. Spending time choosing clothes is for parties, not work.
Feb. 23rd, 2016 01:00 am (UTC)
aside from the weather dependency of "is this skirt weather or do I have to wait WHY IS IT STILL PANTS SEASON"...
Feb. 24th, 2016 04:54 am (UTC)
Huh? All clothes deemed wearable are therefore interchangeable? So if it's in the closet, that means I want to wear it? No. If it's in there I want to wear it...sometime. But not necessarily today. What if it's suitable for a 75-degree day, but today will be 45 degrees? What if it's casual and I need dressy? And no, not every shirt in my closet goes with every pair of pants, let alone every skirt. And then there's the issue of whether the shirt requires a particular bra that may not be clean... Do some people really have days that are so much alike that they can wear exactly the same thing every day? My life is too complicated for this simple approach to dressing.

Feb. 26th, 2016 01:55 am (UTC)
I love clothes and fashion too much to ever get to this point, but I do totally appreciate it. In a similar vein, when I lived alone, I ate literally the same thing every day for 6 months, then would switch. We save our decision fatigue where we can.
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