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what to say about fucking weirdo feminists

There's a lot of "I'm a woman and I don't need feminism" kind of posts going around the internet, I see them, mostly on teen sites like tumblr or whisper. One thing that people seem to be concerned with is that feminism has apparently gotten just way too OUT THERE to be useful to the mainstream human population, that's why they don't want to be feminists.

That project where a feminist allegedly made bread out of her vagina yeast? It comes up a LOT. So does wearing your menstrual blood, painting your placenta. All that.

What they're saying is that this is what feminism is so let's ditch it.

Reality is my feminists friends are much more focused on enforcing laws against honor killings and providing birth control access to women in every country and ending domestic violence than out there art projects... in fact, I'm a smidgen grossed out by some of that stuff, but it was just internet forwards to me, it's not like I go to meetings and it shows up, I don't even know if it's real.

If it is real, it means there's some weirdo feminism out there. You know though? Whatever. There's not much of it. Every movement has to have some weirdos otherwise you worry that there's no diversity in it. And hey, our "out there" extremists aren't fucking gunning people down like elliot rodger... if you want to judge a movement by its extremists, I still think feminists win the game of cool safe causes.

Then I realized that if people bring up weirdo feminism you know what we should bring up? The words of the fabulous amazing Eddie Izzard in Dressed To Kill... who hasn't seen this? It's about men who dress in women's clothing but still, take heed...

There was a guy in the Bronx, when I was in New York who was living in a cave, like you do, and he was coming out and shooting at geese. A lot of weird things going on with this guy. The police picked him up, they found a collection of women’s shoes and they thought, “Maybe he’s a transvestite."

If he is, he’s a fucking weirdo transvestite! I’m more in the executive transvestite area. Travel the world, yes, it’s much more... executive.

J. Edgar Hoover – what a fuckhead he was. They found out when he died that he was a transvestite and they go, “Well, that explains his weird behav – ” yeah, fucking weirdo transvestite!

Executive transvestite. It’s a lot wider community than you’d think.


So there you go. There's some fucking weirdo feminists. Like, two of them that we've seen on the internet so far this year. There's weirdo everything. And there's the executives, right? A lot wider community than you'd think. Mostly because when it comes to feminism, a lot of people don't think, they just accept whatever anti-feminists say about us... but if you're a weirdo, feminism doesn't explain your weirdo-ness, and if you're a weirdo and not hurting anybody, we shouldn't give a fuck anyway, we have more important things to think about.

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sextangles
Dec. 18th, 2015 04:02 am (UTC)
Attitudes towards feminism on whisper can get me really furious really fast. I seriously hate that app I just can't stop.
That 'weirdo' stuff - I don't know, my attitude to it is art/self-expression is what it is and speaks for itself and there's always going to be a place for it on all extremes of the spectrum. I'm cool with it. But bringing that stuff up as a reason why feminism isn't useful to the mainstream seems like kind of a smokescreen to me. These people are completely aware that's not what feminism amounts to or is epitomized by, they just focus on it and draw attention to it so they don't have to come up with an intelligent reason why they 'don't need feminism.'
randomdreams
Dec. 18th, 2015 04:04 am (UTC)
Yep, smokescreen, or selectively tarring an entire movement with the actions of a few very far-out people.
Which, I SUPPOSE, means I shouldn't judge all republicans by donald trump.
spacefem
Dec. 18th, 2015 04:15 am (UTC)
I don't know. Has there been a poll of feminists where 30% of us thought vagina yeast bread was the best thing feminism had to offer?

In that case, fair comparison!
randomdreams
Dec. 18th, 2015 04:35 am (UTC)
I am most definitely not the person who should be doing that particular polling question.
altamira16
Dec. 18th, 2015 01:02 pm (UTC)
I know why you should not be the one to run this particular survey. It's because you just got a bread machine, and you would run this experiment as a taste test instead of a self-reporting survey because experimental data is much more accurate than self-reporting.

Q: Please sign this waiver. Are you a feminist?
A: Yes.

Q: We are running a taste test. What do you think of Bread A? Now what about Bread B?




Edited at 2015-12-18 01:08 pm (UTC)
randomdreams
Dec. 18th, 2015 03:10 pm (UTC)
If someone gave you some bread and then told you, after you ate it, that it was made with vaginal yeast, would that be more offensive than not knowing what the source was? What if it were the baker's own yeast, compared to a friend of the bakers'?

uh asking for a friend.
excentric397
Dec. 18th, 2015 04:30 am (UTC)
I don't know. Is that 'weirdo feminism' or just plain insanity. "...a feminist allegedly made bread out of her vagina yeast? It comes up a LOT. So does wearing your menstrual blood, painting your placenta."

There's a lot on Tumblr about feminism being equality for men and women. That makes more sense to me.

altamira16
Dec. 18th, 2015 01:08 pm (UTC)
I have seen someone doing this on Facebook. The person that I have seen doing this takes no interest in feminism at all so i am not sure it is worth my time to stop and explain.
matrixmann
Dec. 18th, 2015 01:57 pm (UTC)
Problem is: The weirdos are the ones most talkative, loud and the examples most spent on attention by anything that opens up a wider audience. So, not only the majority thinks about a movement that it's full of strange people which live in their bubble, but also the weirdos anytime take it over because extrovertism wins through against people who stay a little more silent.
howlin_wolf_66
Dec. 18th, 2015 04:31 pm (UTC)
There are weirdo branches of everything, but that's no reason to throw out sound core principles.

Executive feminists and executive transvestites? I'm comfortable with that!
ironphoenix
Dec. 19th, 2015 03:06 am (UTC)
It seems pretty fringe, but it sells papers makes good clickbait, so it gets more attention than more serious issues in shallow places.
aparecida
Dec. 19th, 2015 03:15 pm (UTC)
lmao. Stavvers is a Twitter mutual of mine, and she was doing it as a joke and was quite clear that if it worked at all, it was due to the sourdough culture collecting ambient wild yeasts. But, yknow, that's not the narrative people are into, because bizarre white feminist bs fits the existing narrative.
aparecida
Dec. 19th, 2015 08:55 pm (UTC)
lmao. Stavvers is a Twitter mutual of mine, and she was doing it as a joke and was quite clear that if it worked at all, it was due to the sourdough culture collecting ambient wild yeasts. But, yknow, that's not the narrative people are into, because bizarre white feminist bs fits the existing narrative.
hitchhiker
Dec. 28th, 2015 09:20 am (UTC)
i find the vaginal yeast bread fascinating insofar as it tests my ability to separate the substance from the source. there was a lot of hue and cry over castoretum being extracted from beaver's anal glands and then used in food, and i felt annoyed at the people who thought that made it gross, so i am now annoyed at myself over being squicked by the bread purely due to where its yeast was sourced from.
shadowdoomy
Jan. 31st, 2016 03:01 am (UTC)
Hello. I stumbled along your page. Thanks for sharing this information. I found your page trying to learn more about feminism. I used to be an anti-feminist, but now I've been wondering if feminists have been misrepresented. Because the only feminists that gets talked about are the ones who free bleed and paint their faces with menstrual blood.

I just want to learn what I can about it. Instead of making snap judgments.
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