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day 4, baby pic, oversupply advice?

Day 4! Yesterday was fun, Olive had a lot more good awake time with eyes wide open to check out the world. I had just been thinking that it's a good thing the first couple newborn days are so sleepy, like on her second day we were stuck at the hospital waiting for my OB to sign discharge papers and I was like "Yes child, you are going to have such an amazing life in this world of endless possibilities. But for now we're just watching 'Encino Man' on TV..."

Anyway, today's issue is that my body is really trying to prove that it remembers how to breastfeed by just going absolutely crazy with milk, and Olive hasn't been the hungriest baby, she latches on for like 3-5 minutes then passes out. A few times yesterday after a long sleep (which she only does during the day, not at night, because you know...) she'd stay latched for ten minutes but those times were like amazing.

okay so I'm doing the right thing by resisting all urges to get out the breast pump, right? it'll only make the engorgement happen again by increasing supply? there was milk everywhere last night, such an awful mess, plus olive had an epic spitup that resulted in everyone involved changing outfits, right now I have one full boob and one incredibly rediculously engorged one and that's what we're working with, I just want to know I can tough it out and that this is transition day, let my body figure out the right supply naturally, being kinda full right now won't lead to any other issues? I will gladly accept advice from the gallery but I might just call lactation today to ask if mastitis comes from "toughing it out" because that shit scares me.

as for the baby, hopefully today we'll get in to see the pediatrician, get a weight and see how we're doing, I think the kid looks a little peachy in photos and josie had such nasty jaundice it scares me. once again i've had a baby during a week of straight cloudy rainy days when there's no sunlight to treat it, hell. but josie had low bilirubin counts in the hospital and olive did not, so maybe we'll be alright. but josie ate a lot more. hell I don't know.


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May. 6th, 2013 01:54 pm (UTC)
I am happy to troubleshoot, but I need more data.

1. How many wet diapers and dirty diapers in the last 24 hours?
2. What does the baby's urine look like (yellow or little red crystals in the diaper)

Basically, if you start pumping to comfort a couple times a day now, all you will do is start accummulating extra milk in the freezer, no harm done. My #1 concern is whether the baby is transferring efficiently. I would also keep the baby skin-to-skin as much as possible.
May. 6th, 2013 03:21 pm (UTC)
oh thanks!
1) I'm gonna say three of each, although some dirty diapers could be wet too it's hard to tell?
2) I think it's clear or yellow, I haven't paid attention. No red crystals though I know that.

I don't mind a freezer stash I just dont want to be woken up at 4am on a daily basis by solid boobs like I was with my first... so annoying!
May. 6th, 2013 03:27 pm (UTC)
3+3 on day 4 is right on the low edge of normal, especially if these poops are not "gynormo-poops", and if they have not turned yellow yet. I would pump to comfort, hold the baby skin to skin as much as possible, not swaddle, and breastfeed as often as she would take it.
May. 6th, 2013 04:08 pm (UTC)
Will do! She's still having temp issues anyway so skin to skin is probably not a bad idea. Good thing the husband is here in case anyone comes to the door :)
May. 6th, 2013 02:15 pm (UTC)
Pretty sure mastitis can come from toughing it out but idk maybe just a little won't matter? But I'm a wimp I'd have pumped if I were engorged because ow.

Good luck hopefully she's eating enough.
May. 6th, 2013 02:17 pm (UTC)
Can you try a laid-back position so that the milk has to work against gravity? Pumping a lot out will cause more oversupply, but maybe hand expressing a bit so you're not so engorged.

May. 6th, 2013 04:01 pm (UTC)
Do you have a midwife or a maternity-nurse-on-call that you can call? It sounds, especially from the last paragraph or so, that it might be the right time to call. My midwives told me regularly that I should call any time that I felt I needed to, but it wasn't until about 4:00am one morning when Gwen hadn't nursed in almost 8 hours and I was sobbing in bed to Joel "my baby is going to DIE" that he managed to convince me that now was perhaps the time to call. After doing so, I realized I should've made that call much, much earlier.
May. 6th, 2013 04:10 pm (UTC)
I called lactation, we'll see the pediatrician this afternoon.

And yeah, josie's bad times were without fail always at, like, 6 pm on Friday when we faced a whole weekend with no one to call! Dang babies!
May. 6th, 2013 04:37 pm (UTC)
Kids know. The two times that Gwen has been sick enough that I considered taking her to a doctor, she started getting sick Friday morning, and by the time it was bad enough to do something about, it was Friday afternoon and all the GPs were closed for the weekend.
May. 6th, 2013 05:29 pm (UTC)
Great, let us know how it goes ok?
May. 6th, 2013 05:21 pm (UTC)
you've gotten great advice! one wet diaper per day of age until your milk comes in and then 6-8 per day min. poopies can count as wet. you want to see the poop change from thick black to green to yellow mustard seedy looking.

its ok to pump to comfort (not to drain the breast) but don't do it unless you just absolutely cannot get her to nurse any more at all.

May. 7th, 2013 02:28 am (UTC)
Spacebaby 2.0 looks remarkably like I remember the original model!

As the mother with lots of upclose and personal time, are there any features that you really think are different between your daughters?
May. 7th, 2013 06:57 am (UTC)
did either girl get vitamin k when they were born?

& hand expressing just so the pressure is relieved a little shouldn't do a whole lot to supply.

also with the falling asleep while nursing does she want to nurse all of the time but falls asleep while doing so? my son was tongue tied & would wear himself out trying to eat so he would fall asleep for a little bit and then wake up hungry all over again.
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