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This quote in "Innumeracy" by John Allen Paulos COMPLETELY sums up why I became an engineer!

"I remember thinking of mathematics as a kind of omnipotent protector. You could prove things to people and they would have to believe you whether they liked you or not."


Two sentences!

My whole story: I was in high school honors English class and we were supposed to write papers on Shakespeare's Macbeth. I got a D on my paper. The teacher said I didn't cite enough outside sources to back up my viewpoint, which was that Lady Macbeth's criminal behavior was caused by her life in an oppressive society that didn't offer women any means for achievement. I had some sources. But remember this was in, like, 1996... do to research we had to go to these things called libraries and use books, and search in electronic databases if we were lucky. Resources were limited, especially for a somewhat unconventional thesis.

Our teacher had given a boy named Travis an A. She said Travis' paper was extraordinary. His theme was "ambition". Every day in class, we'd talked about ambition, she'd assigned a number of critical literary essays on "ambition" throughout the lessons. There wasn't a single idea in Travis' model paper that hadn't been spoon-fed to him by our teacher. And that, she held up, was what she wanted. I'd quoted from the papers she'd given us, in addition to some of my own that I'd found, I used quotes to back up my conclusion. But it was my conclusion and she didn't like that. Drawing a logical parallel wasn't worth anything without an accomplished scholar agreeing with me, she said.

I should thank her now, because after that paper I decided the literary world was bullshit... at the same time I was taking physics and geometry, and those teachers appreciated independent reasoning. "You can't think too much," a math teacher told me. At the end of anything I did there was an answer, plain and black and white. If I proved something logically, someone who wanted to disprove it would also have to use logic... not "you don't have enough degrees".

So I never took another honors or AP English class again. They weren't important for me to be an engineer. The rest of high school I cruised through the normal English classes where they were reading popular books and learning what a verb was (I kid you not, the divides in our educational system are amazing).

Engineering turned out to be very good for me. I'm not just speaking financially. I really lucked out and love what I do.

It didn't totally save me from the "it's who you know"-ness of the world, I have been sad to find out that even the best idea ever still need a publicist and a good powerpoint that the higher-ups can understand. Dang it! But it's better than the arts I think. In science we can tell when an idea works, and we can run a test and see if a thing passes. That's why I don't think I could operate in any other field. Underneath it all, we have our numbers and that's the most important thing.

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astrogeek01
Dec. 28th, 2011 02:39 am (UTC)
wow that teacher sucked. I wrote a paper on Moby Dick that was completely original thought of my own (though of course not actual original thought that no one else had thought of, but hey, what, I was in high school) and got really good comments and grade on. I had no outside sources besides the story itself because it was my own ideas in the paper.

But I'm glad your an engineer too. :)
astrogeek01
Dec. 28th, 2011 02:39 am (UTC)
*you're

*shakes head muttering*
hitchhiker
Dec. 28th, 2011 10:33 am (UTC)
amen
nessasplace
Dec. 28th, 2011 04:10 pm (UTC)
That sounds like a similar thing that happened to me in university. After that class I switched my major from English to Math. I don't regret it at all :)
wig
Dec. 28th, 2011 05:59 pm (UTC)
I remember how arbitrary my high school English essay assignments seemed... so I stuck with maths :-D
sunneschii
Nov. 23rd, 2013 08:48 am (UTC)
I came here because you linked to from your current post. It's funny, I never had a bad experience like you had, but one of the reasons I wanted to go into engineering as a profession was because I saw that in subjects belonging to the philiosophy faculty in university (literature, languages, philosophy, psychology...) it mattered a lot WHO was stating a certain opinion. Not how good it was reasoned. That did turn me away from those subjects.
I still like reading, but now it's purely just for fun.
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