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Are you here for an affair?

News, news. First, I won this! Yes, I probably over-bid just a little, but I'm kind of in a hurry here. It's a router, in case you don't feel like clicking the link. Thanks for all the networking tips in yesterday's entry, they made me confident.

Second, I went to church with my family today. When we started at this church it was little and tiny, now it's freaking huge. A super-church with like 10,000 members, uhg. They're trying to raise money for the building campaign and have $26 million so far. Egad! For some reason I just didn't feel that spiritual there, it's so huge and disconnected. The coffee is really good, way better than at the little Pittsburg Church, and the sermon was excellent, but the feeling is hard to describe. They've got some little young adult groups I might jump into, I was in one last summer that was nice even if it was kinda cliquey like the rest of the church.

We sang a song today in church, "All in All", that my friend Katya taught me before she went back to Russia to marry my pen pal who now has MS. It really got me thinking about her. I have nothing else to do, I almost want to just go over and hang out in Siberia and give her a hug. I guess I should at least call first. It's just so helpless, knowing that a friend I love is going through so much and her husband who I also care a lot about is very likely going to die. It makes me grateful that my life is set up so I don't feel that helpless all the time. It's so cushioned here


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May. 19th, 2002 02:50 pm (UTC)
the church of starbucks
you're church serves coffee? is that b/f or after communion?
man...we only have holy water in ours...and when you try to drink it, people make the ruddest remarks!
May. 20th, 2002 07:19 am (UTC)
Re: the church of starbucks
What are you, Catholic? Dang, your church needs to learn to be friendlier! Masses are so dull and impersonal.

Yes, we have coffee. Before and after the service! And if you go to sunday school, you can usually acheive a donut too. Communion is only once a month, so it's not like they conflict or anything. And since this is a big church there were actually four types of coffee: a regular, a decaf, vanilla hazelnut and french roast. Kinda does sound like a starbucks doesn't it? Scary.
May. 20th, 2002 08:03 am (UTC)
Re: the church of starbucks
catholic by birth, not choice. you're dead on about their masses, which is why i don't partake.

coffee and donuts hu...wow. i need to convert.

so wait, with the four kinds of coffee, does how much you contribute depend on which flavor you get:
Decaf - free for anyone
Regular - 5 bucks
vanilla hazelnut - 10 bucks
french roast - 20 bucks and your enternal soul.

May. 20th, 2002 12:47 pm (UTC)
Re: the church of starbucks
very funny! no, they just put out a basket and tell you to donate whatever you feel like having coffee was worth to you that day. I try to put in a buck or two, telling myself that if I had an actual job that paid money I'd put in more.

and I love catholics. that whole idea that religion is a race, not a choice... it just always blows me away. I know kids who haven't believed in God for ten years yet claim to be catholic because "if your parents were catholic, you are too." Religion is funny.
May. 20th, 2002 08:42 am (UTC)
Ahh, the topic of CHURCHES...(Small sigh of content) There is a reason why I do not go, Kim. For the very feelign you have described to me. The same reason why I don't get involved in Youth Groups. (That, and the last one I got involved in, I converted half the people to my way of thinking, and NONE OF US ever went back. THey weren't happy about that little incident. Am I fibbing or not? Hyuck Hyuck...That's an Or Not, incidentally...) You have entered into a religion, Kim. You now take part in a flawed thing, much, to Quote J. Michael Reed, Jr. like the government. THey are both man-made things, religion and government. Seek, instead, to enter into faith, which is something that man cannot flaw, but only misplace.

(Laugh) How ironic that I would be giving advice about seeking God...
May. 20th, 2002 12:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Church...
I haven't entered into a religion recently, you'll note. I've been in one since I was born, I just choose to stay :)

Yes, religion is mad-made and has flaws. But I think my church does much more good than evil, which is why I'm proud to be a member of it. Yes, there is some materialism, some weird Johnson County attitudes, all that. But let me discuss some facts:

In my life, I've only met about five people who I considered truly good. They lived for others and gave of themselves in ways I may never be able to but will always dream about. My friend Katya is one of these - she is living to make this world a better place. Now, you can be a truly good person and not go to church, but all of the people so far that I've met in life have just happened to be church members. I like meeting them, being influenced by them, hearing their optimism, and church is just where they've happened to be so far.

They go to church for the same reason, and to be a light to others. And I admit that 95% of church members do not fall into my official "really good person" catagory. But that's better than the real outside world.

I also go to be with my family and be reminded of my religion and beliefs. In a perfect world I'd be able to remember my beliefs by my own damn self, but hey, oh well, it helps.

I'm not trying to start up a huge debate or anything because I totally understand where you're coming from. I just want you to know that I do have reasons for going to church, I'm not just a mindless christian sheep like some religions seem to encourage their members to become. If my church did something I didn't believe or said something I totally disagreed with, I would definately not change who I am or what I believe just to accomodate for that.

Maybe I'll write more later, I've got to quit before this computer freezes :
May. 20th, 2002 01:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Church...
(Large smile...) A truely intelligent Person to debate religion and faith with...I love you.
May. 20th, 2002 03:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Church...
A position that supports an organized religion in today's society is one in the minority. Supporting, belonging to, or defending such institutions is not only unpopular but too many don't have the honest or character to speak out and support their views.

Typically, spacefem ignores whether her views are "popular" or not, an uncommon trait considering her consistency. (This is a fact that echthroix obviously recognizes, knows very well, indeed much better than I.)

Honesty can be a difficult cross to bear (no pun intended) anywhere, anytime, when that issue is not favored by the majority.

Society fortunately has spacefem, echthroix, and many on this LJ friend's list who are honest and and have thoughtfully considered their views. One doesn't need to look far to recognize the need for these qualities as we battle intolerance, prejudice and other great evils.

(getting down from lecture, dusting off halo dust, and returning to seat in audience....Radagast)

(always a good place to lurk) :)
May. 21st, 2002 02:13 am (UTC)
uc irvine has 11,119 trees
alrighty, this has nothing to do w/ the topic of churches, although i always feel guilty when i partake in some donuts after service w/o donating some money...hehe...anyway, i just got a blob...and i thank you for it! i love blobs! i named mine skippy!

May. 24th, 2002 08:48 pm (UTC)
The Graduate
Hi! Just thought I'd let you know that I enjoyed your 'Are you here for an affair?' comment. I watched that movie last night. The music is the best part...of course I'd say that because I'm a Simon and Garfunkel geek. Anyway, nice site! Love the blobs!
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