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keep forgetting to mention this in here, but if you live in colorado will you please go vote no on amendment 48? They're trying to say a person = fertilized egg. like, if any woman in that state has an ectopic pregnancy she's just supposed to bleed to death now, because it's not that innocent fertilized egg's fault, it's a person too?

and since there's no test for "fertilized egg", if you go into a hospital to get chemo or some other major treatment are they just going to deny it unless you can prove you haven't been near a sperm in three weeks?

i really cannot believe how far out the right is getting, or how something like this even ends up on a ballot. i mean i know i'm pro-choice but things like this make me want to be really, really pro-choice.

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invertedsky
Oct. 22nd, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC)
Just plain stupid
Agreed. When one puts it into the context of the Colorado Bill of Rights, it becomes hilarious. A fertilized egg would have the right to acquire property without discrimination, to pursue a legitimate trade or business, to travel freely around the state (but what if the mother doesn't want to go someplace and the egg does?), to have a public defender if the egg can't afford legal representation, etc.
tiwonge
Oct. 22nd, 2008 11:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Just plain stupid
Does that apply to children, too?

If a 2 year old child wants to go some place, are his or her parents required to take them?

I smell hyperbole.
naath
Oct. 23rd, 2008 10:23 am (UTC)
Re: Just plain stupid
Probably not. I mean, if I want to travel around then I have the right to do so but I can't compel anyone to take me; although I think I can't be refused access to public transport provided I pay for it and don't Break The Rules.

I'm not sure whether they think that a 2 year old ought to be able to save up their pocket money and travel without parental accompaniment, it doesn't seem like a very good idea.
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spacefem
Oct. 23rd, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)
yeah.

for that matter, if a fertilized egg just fails to implant there might be a "person" in there they'll want to autopsy. so if you get your period in colorado be sure to save the tampons.
(Anonymous)
Oct. 23rd, 2008 09:06 am (UTC)
Life is short and brutish, for most
What a lot of these Pro-Lifer's fail to appreciate is that our own bodies abort foetuses that are not viable on a regular basis.

Growing a child takes a huge amount of energy and is risky in that both mother and child can die during the birth. The body will naturally abort a foetuses that it senses to be seriously damaged.

For most the species on this planet, life is brutish and short. I don't think most people appreciate just how cruel it is out there.

The fact that we have time to pontificate about such matter is a wonder in itself - most animals spend most of their time just trying to survive.

I wonder where these pro-lifers will stop? I mean, every egg that fails to get fertilised is a missed opportunity. Every sperm that fails to meet an egg is a missed opportunity.

If you look at the rate of attrition in terms of our gametes that the amount of wasted potential life is huge. In just one day it would outstrip every genocide ever committed by mankind.

crisco747
Oct. 23rd, 2008 12:17 am (UTC)
Already on it.
belgand
Oct. 23rd, 2008 02:21 am (UTC)
You're also totally ignoring Proposition 8 which is trying to amend the California constitution to eliminate same-sex marriange. Since it was a California Supreme Court decision earlier this year that made it happen by stating that the earlier law banning it was unconstitutional this is the last chance they'll have (until they possibly try this same shit again in a few more years). That makes it crucial that we win this one.
cavok
Oct. 23rd, 2008 03:17 am (UTC)
The potential implications of that are downright scary.
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