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is there a nice way to get your relatives that you hate their intolerant conservative e-mail forwards?

I could just filter them out, but then they'd just go on assuming that I didn't mind getting them. They just assume everything is normal and everyone agrees with them. sometimes I think that people who send e-mail forwards hardly ever bother to read them... if you reply saying that you disagree you get the, "Oh lighten up it's just a forward!" CRAP.

I got one once that said (I'm not kidding) that It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having "In God We Trust" on our money and having "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the 14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET or live somewhere else!!!

Yes, apparently America is all about blindly accepting popular opinion and ignoring irrelevant minorities. It wasn't founded by, um, people who felt they were in the minority. or anything.

or immigrants. those are my other favorite forwards to get. I got one that said that 30% of federal prison inmates are illegal immigrants... how is that even possible? the whole e-mail forward cycle makes me think afraid that the average person forms all their opinions based on contrived bullshit.


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Jun. 20th, 2008 03:40 am (UTC)
Once I sent back a mass email reply to all my conservative relatives and old church aquaintances that basically said they were helping the terrorists win and possibly Hitler by passing on emails that could or could not be received by spammers and identity thieves. At that point, I had lost it. I was so tired of getting anti-immigrant, fascist emails or ones that were all about fear mongering and urban legends (which tend to reinforce racist and gender stereotypes).

I actually had someone reply back and ask for forgiveness! I'd feel bad for them if I hadn't asked extremely politely three different times to take me off the forward list.

So my advice is Hitler+ Terrorists+ Spammers= Treason.

Good Times!
Jun. 20th, 2008 03:48 am (UTC)
I would probably just stop reading them.
Jun. 20th, 2008 04:41 am (UTC)
Sadly, I believe you are correct. Many people who would seem to be of at least average intelligence and skepticism can simply throw those attributes out their window when it comes to info they receive via the internet or email. It's shocking.
Back in '97 (a fairly long time in internet years), the author Andrew Vachss coined the term "cyber chump"". It's still quite accurate and prevalent.

As for getting off those annoying lists, if it were me, I would just spell it out with something along the lines of, "Please stop. I don't like them, I won't read them, and they make me like you less."

You might want to alter the language slightly. :-) I wouldn't, but this may explain why I have a relatively low number of friends...
Jun. 20th, 2008 05:00 am (UTC)
Just ignore them. I've tried polite ways of trying to get relatives to stop forwarding me merely inane crap and that hasn't worked at all. At this point I more or less delete anything forwarded and almost everything from relatives without reading more than the subject line.
Jun. 20th, 2008 07:08 am (UTC)
Luckily, my relatives are all liberals who don't send those types of forwards. They, too, assume everyone agrees with them, though. I guess if it were me, I'd try to convince them I had a virus on my computer and they'd get it if they sent me forwards. LOL, people who send forwards with made up facts will believe anything, right?
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Jun. 20th, 2008 09:26 am (UTC)
You doubt this?
Jun. 20th, 2008 09:23 am (UTC)
"Kindly take me off your list of e-mail forwards. I am going to begin reporting racist, homophobic, or bigoted e-mails as spam. Thank you."
Jun. 20th, 2008 11:24 am (UTC)
^I agree with this
Jun. 20th, 2008 11:57 am (UTC)
I agree with you, but I'll get nowhere if I start calling them names.
Jun. 20th, 2008 12:07 pm (UTC)
You're not calling them names, you're calling their e-mails names. Understood that you want something milder, though.

"I regret to inform you all that I am no longer capable of receiving e-mail forwards and from now on must mark them as spam. With that in mind, I would greatly appreciate it if you would remove me from your forward lists. Thanks so much for your co-operation."

Jun. 20th, 2008 10:12 am (UTC)
I don't understand why you feel the need to be nice about it. These messages obviously bother you, it's no different then if they said it to your face.

If someone said to me "Why don't we just tell the 14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET or live somewhere else!!!" You can bet I'd respond quickly, and I doubt it would be pleasant. Family or not, an insulting statement is an insulting statement.
Jun. 20th, 2008 03:25 pm (UTC)
is there a nice way to get your relatives that you hate their intolerant conservative e-mail forwards?

Jun. 20th, 2008 04:04 pm (UTC)
I refute the figures that 30 percent of those in jail are illegal immigrants. But even they are, the real spin is still that 70 percent are legal citizens, meaning that illegal immigrants are better at obeying the laws than so-called "American citizens." If there were any merit whatsoever to the petty, Conservative tirade about illegal immigrants coming in and taking the jobs and livelihood of American people, I'd expect the figure to be a lot higher.

Oh, as far as the "Let's tell the 14 percent to shut the hell up or go somewhere else"? They originally did. As a matter of fact, that's how this country was founded--by dissenting opinions, and a desire for separate expression and free speech. I always found that argument fairly ironic in light of how America came into being in the first place. Not to mention that whole pesky "First Amendment" thing. Yeah, a lot of Conservatives hate that.

I come from a pretty Conservative family, and while most of them respected that I did not share their views, there were always those who thought, "Gee, we can evangelize to her via the e-mail. Yup, that'll get her!" Sorry, but it's going to take more than an e-mail to challenge the notions that I hold.

I found a pretty good way of getting them to stop, though. One e-mail was about an obituary for Common Sense which was just chalked full of strawmen arguments and complete misrepresentations of pertinent situations (e.g. the McDonald's coffee case) so I refuted it, point by point, kind of like I did here on my friend Coco's journal.

I haven't received an e-mail since.
Jun. 20th, 2008 10:17 pm (UTC)
Just wanted to butt in and say that was a great rebuttal you gave! THANK YOU for informing them about the friggin McDonalds coffee case (and for the whole post in general, but I get so tired of telling people the real story behind that case)... In law school, we spent a fair amount of time talking about that case. McDonalds had definitely been warned about serving coffee at or above 160 degrees, and the woman had to have debridement, for goodness sakes (which, I've been told, is *incredibly* painful - involving, quite literally, putting salt water on open wounds):

"Surgical debridement is usually done if there is a growing inflammation or a more generalized infection in the blood stream. First, the area will be washed with a salt water solution and then a numbing gel will be used to reduce pain. Then, the tissue will be cut away a little at a time. Sometimes not all the dead tissue can be removed in one process and surgical debridement may be repeated. Mechanical debridement involves placing a saline-wet dressing on the area containing the dead tissue. The dressing is left to dry and when it is removed the dead tissue accompanies it. This technique is not usually used to remove dead tissue from a new wound because of the danger that it will remove newly formed healing cells. In the case of burns this technique can involve removing dead tissue through the use of water (hydrotherapy)."

Sorry for the brief rant, but I had to say that I appreciated your post!
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Jun. 20th, 2008 10:21 pm (UTC)
I'd be tactful/nice, but firm about requesting that they stop sending me forwards, BUT I wouldn't take the easy way out by saying that I can no longer receive them or something like that. You can be tactful but still be activist. It might not change their minds about anything, but at least if you tell them WHY you want to be removed from their fwd list, you'll be letting them know that they personally know someone (a good, smart someone) who can't agree with their views and, well, even small steps help fight intolerance and ignorance.
Jun. 20th, 2008 11:40 pm (UTC)
i asked the serious offender (who is one of my best friends) to just stop sending me forwards. they weren't racist or anything, but they were also those "little billy lost and eye due to cancer and if you forward this he will get surgery to create a new one" emails that are always on the snopes list of fakes. i asked her nicely once. and she didn't stop. so then i was kind of mean about it. she got over it.

i find that you really can't be too nice about it. because being nice about it seems to let the sender think that it really is okay to send such forwards.
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Jun. 22nd, 2008 06:34 pm (UTC)
But Barak Obama really des fit with the Bible's anti-Christ prophesy, that one’s gotta be true.

Some relatives you can’t tell to screw off. I was ignoring them but here’s how I’m beginning to see it: I don’t want to reply because I feel it’s rude to share political beliefs in that context, with a relative who I know doesn’t share my feelings, but it’s not like I’m getting the same consideration. The person who’s sending this stuff just doesn’t care if I’m offended by it, so I’m caring less and less about how a response will be received.

I’m thinking "I really love hearing from you but some of these messages in your political e-mails really bother me. I don’t agree with them and I’d like you to stop sending them to me. Please keep other e-mails coming, but since we aren’t on the same page, let’s just not discuss politics, okay?"

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